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leftyguitar Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: Cannonball Shuffle chord |
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In the bridge I can hear the chords go from A to G to ???, then to the B7. It gets kind of muddy there just before the B7 V chord at the end of the chorus. I play it both ways..with an F#7, or C7alt, and either works well. Which is correct? |
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LongIslandRod Senior Member
Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 107 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Lefty,
I don't have my axe or a copy of the recording (@ work). But when I worked this out, in the key of A, the last chord of the bridge is an E(7). I just played the phrase not the backing chords, but that last chord - the V chord, is definitely an E.
I love that part in the song, nice groove, especially when using your fingers like robben does.
I remember when I went to an RF clinic, one thing he said was that everything he does is simple. I apply that principle whenever I learn something from his records. My 2 cents. hope that helps. |
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leftyguitar Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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LongIslandRod, thanks for the reply. I play it in A and in E...guess I should have mentioned in my first post I was asking for the chord in the key of E. Yes, the last chord in the key of A...the V7 chord... is E7. The one just before it was the one I was having hearing problems with on the track I was listening to. I found another version of it and it is much clearer( a soundboard mix). The missing chord is definitely a minor third down from the IV chord), so it is a B7 which resolves to the E7...pretty basic changes once you can hear them. This pattern is usually played from the I chord in jazzy blues, going down in half steps near the end of bar 8 in a 12 bar blues, but not often heard coming off the IV chord as Robben does in Cannonball Shuffle. I like the tune in E because it is much darker and adds a little more bluesiness, IMHO, and some challenging fingerings without giving up the open strings in the key of A. |
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Char Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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I would lile to ask question about this song.
Does Robben play this song without pick?
Thank you |
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JackD Senior Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 243 Location: Rochester, MI
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Like much of Robben's music, he uses both on this song--pick and fingers. |
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Gfox38 New Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
I'm a greenhorn blues player and I just fell in love with Cannonball Shuffel. I'm having trouble with the signature riff. I'm close but no cigar. Can anyone help me here?
I'm playing it at the 5th fret in A. If you can just call out the strings by tab number I can follow you.
Any help appreciated.
Gary Fox |
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Bluelobster Senior Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 1172 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: balls |
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I dunno what's a greenhorn but if i got what you asked
slide down 8th fret on B string while letting ring open E high string then slide up to the 6th fret and............................................. |
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Gfox38 New Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for responding Bluelobster.
A greenhorn is slang for a beginner. I've been playing a little over a year now.
I'm at work so I'll try it tonight.
BTW, to anyone out there. I'd pay a small fortune for the tab. (BG)
Gary |
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JackD Senior Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 243 Location: Rochester, MI
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Gfox38 wrote: | Thanks for responding Bluelobster.
A greenhorn is slang for a beginner. I've been playing a little over a year now.
I'm at work so I'll try it tonight.
BTW, to anyone out there. I'd pay a small fortune for the tab. (BG)
Gary |
Gary: as a 30 year student of guitar, take my advice--learn it by ear. You'll get a lot more out of it. In the old days, you'd have to keep lifting the needle on the record (now I'm dating myself). Then we had tapes you could rewind. Now, there are some outstanding tools out there to slow down the riff/song from CD without changing the pitch so you can learn this stuff a lot easier. Like I said, this will help your playing a lot more than using a tab. Good luck! |
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roadwarriorfortheblues Senior Member
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 908 Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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JackD,
What do you think are the easiest to learn of Robben's arrangements, suitable for beginner level players? _________________ Travelling by train of thought |
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JackD Senior Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 243 Location: Rochester, MI
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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roadwarriorfortheblues wrote: | JackD,
What do you think are the easiest to learn of Robben's arrangements, suitable for beginner level players? |
Great question. I've been learning stuff off of Robben's records/CD for years. Actually, I started with some of the more difficult stuff (the first song I learned was Imperial Strut from the Yellowjackets). I'd say that it's best to start with solos that are more feel oriented and not too much a blaze of notes. Go with songs that are simple and more melodic. Really, any of the CDs from the Blue Line up through Keep on Running has material that will work. Also, although you might find it fun to learn the whole solo (I recall doing this for Talk to Your Daughter) you don't need to learn the whole thing. You can pick certain lines and phrases you like and just learn them. Lastly, try to really focus on getting the line and phrase to sound right. Given Robben's technique, this may require that you jump around a bit (I recall this from the opening guitar solo parts on Up the Line). You'll learn a lot about playing for sound and feel and not necessarily for efficiency and speed. |
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jconstant Senior Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Southern California
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JavaDiva Senior Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 103 Location: Upper left coast
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: Finger pickin |
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JackD wrote: | Like much of Robben's music, he uses both on this song--pick and fingers. |
Interesting observation from my concert partner last night - he noticed Robben playing both with the pick and then fingers in the same song, changing back and forth. And what does he do with the pick while he's using his fingers? Anybody have the answer? Inquiring minds want to know. |
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jconstant Senior Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Finger pickin |
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JavaDiva wrote: |
Interesting observation from my concert partner last night - he noticed Robben playing both with the pick and then fingers in the same song, changing back and forth. And what does he do with the pick while he's using his fingers? Anybody have the answer? Inquiring minds want to know. |
He slips it between his fingers on his picking hand. He's said it just sort of happens and he's never really put any thought into it. _________________ "Somebody's got to make some music around here." - Robben Ford |
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Gfox38 New Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hello JackD,
I know you're right about that. It's just that tabs makes it sooooo much faster! By the way, I've never seen/heard the CD players that slow a song down and don't change the key. Do you have a recommendation?
Hello jconstant,
Thank you thank you thank you. I've ordered that baby!!
Gary |
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