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frank0936
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: topless guitars Reply with quote

I've heard of unscrewing the necks on Strats and Teles and packing them in a suitcase surrounded by clothing or putting them in a smaller case to carry on. I don't know if that would work now or not. I'm not sure I'd want to do that anyway. It seems like the screw holes would get a lot of slop in them after doing that a few times.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've travelled with my tele like do that a number of times, including when I went to attend Robben's clinic in Ojai.

If Mr. Fender didn't want me not to take off that neck, he wouldn't have put screws in it. Besides, toothpicks and glue have to get used up on something and it might as well be for loose screws.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've travelled with my tele like do that a number of times, including when I went to attend Robben's clinic in Ojai.

If Mr. Fender didn't want me not to take off that neck, he wouldn't have put screws in it. Besides, toothpicks and glue have to get used up on something and it might as well be for loose screws.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This can be a solution with the little gig bag !
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure this can be a solution if this guitar gives you everything you want. I got a little Hofner travel guitar that's been around the world with me for over 20 years, but I wouldn't want to play a gig with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: travelin' blues Reply with quote

The main point is the ridiculousness of the whole thing. If a guitar in a gigbag is permitted at one airport it should be permitted at all airports. I can understand if a flight is particularly crowded. But we should still be permitted to check the instruments at the gate in that case. I was lucky the last time and my guitar arrived at the same airport that I did and at the same time as I did, and it was all in one piece. I hate to put too much of a strain on my guitar's guardian angel, though. I would much prefer a common sense ruling from the "powers that be". I am afraid that in this case common sense may indeed prove to be a most uncommon commodity.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: topless guitars Reply with quote

frank0936 wrote:
I've heard of unscrewing the necks on Strats and Teles and packing them in a suitcase surrounded by clothing or putting them in a smaller case to carry on. I don't know if that would work now or not. I'm not sure I'd want to do that anyway. It seems like the screw holes would get a lot of slop in them after doing that a few times.
Frank


Les had a 57 or 58 Tele as I recall, maybe the wood was better then? But I wouldn't want to do it either, also they might confiscate your screwdriver...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cal wrote:
What drives me crazy is that carry on bags are now almost all small suitcases. You can never find overhead space. So they let all these bulging bags be carried on but you can't bring a guitar in a soft case. Annoying.

BTW - Daved, is there going to be a Toronto date? Maybe a nearby Buffalo date?

Yes, this irritates me, too.
I can usually slide a guitar in a gig bag on top of or even behind several regular carry-ons with little or no problem.

However, these days, after arguing with me and being told that my guitar will not fit and will inconvenience the other passengers with their luggage storage, I proceed on the plane and watch other passengers allowed (almost encouraged) to bring on 2 or 3 small suitcase size bags each and then fill up one bin with them after the stewardesses smile and say "let me asssist you" and then proceed to push, shove and practically kick or smash those bags into the overheads (often finally getting them to fit only by turning them sideways so that each bag takes up the room of 2 spaces) to make them fit.

Other annoyances:

People who put one bag in an empty bin and then quickly close the bin's door to make it appear that the bin is now full. If it is close to where I sit, and I see people, or attendants, looking for empty slots to stow carry-ons, I will get up and go reopen the bin myself, often to the annoyance of the jerk hoping to have the bin to themselves.

Also, people boarding the plane who stuff their luggage in the forward bins and then proceed to their seats at the back of the plane, too lazy to carry their bags to the back with them, leaving those who sit in front having to have THEIR bags stowed in back, forcing them to have to standby upon arrival, waiting for the entire plane to empty before they can go retrieve their luggage from the rear to exit themselves.
I consider this very rude and inconsiderate and I WILL most definitely and without hesitation remove some one's luggage and ask an attendant to stow it somewhere else, closer to the person in the back who is inconveniencing ME, if I see someone do this in "my" space near "my" seat.

My mom told this story to some elderly man at her senior center and told me that the man got very irrate, ranting about how wrong and inconsiderate I was. Laughing
Obviously he must be one of those rude, lazy people.

As for your question about Toronto dates, I don't know yet... sorry.

BTW, coincidently, as I read and respond to your post, I have just checked into the hotel here at Niagra Falls, on the Canadian side, with a lovely view from my 16th floor room looking almost directly down on the top of the horseshoe falls boiling and bubbling and misting below, for a day off and then 2 nights at the Niagra Fallsview casino resort with ABB. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fallsview casino ballroom is a really good place to see a show. I wanted to get down there because of the small size for ABB but the schedule doesn't allow for it. saw Cheap Trick there and Rick Neilsen would toss his picks into the crowd and some were landing 3/4's of the way back. Hope you enjoy the falls. BTW - if you have a day of on Saturday, there is a great outdoor concert up in Toronto on Centre Island. Lovely, outdoors with a lot of new music -- Broken Social Scene, Feist. Should be a great way to spend an afternoon and evening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Daved"]
Cal wrote:

I consider this very rude and inconsiderate and I WILL most definitely and without hesitation remove some one's luggage and ask an attendant to stow it somewhere else, closer to the person in the back who is inconveniencing ME, if I see someone do this in "my" space near "my" seat.


Good for you Daved Smile

I have had the very same thing happen to me on a few occassions, and after a long haul flight the last thing anyone wants to do is be inconvenienced in this way. I once saw a man intentiously drop a bag belonging to the offending person on the floor saying 'oops!', followed by the sound of something breaking! This was after the offending person refused to move it, when completely ignoring the person who polietly asked them a few times to move it. Their face was a picture Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at a Jerry Donahue clinic a while ago, and I think he said he would put steel inserts in the screwholes of his signature tele so there wouldn't be any fatiguing of the holes in the body when he took it apart to travel.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Suede wrote:
I was at a Jerry Donahue clinic a while ago, and I think he said he would put steel inserts in the screwholes of his signature tele so there wouldn't be any fatiguing of the holes in the body when he took it apart to travel.


Seems to me the best thing to do is put the screws back in the holes. Stops the fatigue and they won't get lost or forgotten!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I meant permanently, and it was on his signature model, not a vintage guitar. That way he could take it apart and put it together without fear of the screwholes ever fatiguing to the point of the neck shifting.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I get it now. Very clever!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Tele screws Reply with quote

That's not a bad idea. I may have to look into that. It still doesn't address the problem of airport stupidity, but I think we're arguing with a brick wall there.
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