Robben Ford Discussion

kirk95

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Scott Lerner and I spent Thursday afternoon here!

Surprised

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PierreL · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 12:51 am Post subject:

Well...nice collection Smile

Which ones did you prefer ?

bkrueger · Member Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 15 Location: dallas tx

I'm sick.

Was it better than...?
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jaybee · Member Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Belgium

how do you know where to jump when you're being told to "TURN DOWN THAT DAMN GUITAR!!!" Wink

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edpesco · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject:

hey kirk, you play trumpet?

kirk95 · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:49 pm Post subject:

no.....Trumpet? Question

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Leftbender · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:18 pm Post subject:

Ed,

It's the Captains new Ray Gun!

edpesco · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:16 am Post subject:

nineacres · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:57 am Post subject:

No - it's a plunger for unblocking drains at warp speed

OR

"One more split infinitive and I'll vapourise you!"
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elizabeth · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:05 am Post subject:

edpesco · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:04 am Post subject:

that sounds dangerous, to avoid being vapourised what is a split infinitive??? Confused

kirk95 · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:42 pm Post subject:

elizabeth · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:51 pm Post subject: Okay, you asked, so here goes:

(....look out everyone, she's in her element now....woooooo) Just remember, you asked what it is...GO ENGLISH TEACHER LADY, GO!

The infinitive is the simplest, or root form of a verb in all Latin based languages (to go, aller, etc.) To split it means to put an adverb (describes or modifies a verb or an adjective) in betwee the word "to" and the verb (in this case, "go.")

Phrases consisting of "to be" or "to have" followed by an adverb and a participle are NOT split infinitives, and constitute the natural word order. "To generally be accepted" and "to always have thought" are split infinitives; "to be generally accepted" and "to have always thought" are not.

Certain kinds of adverbs are characteristically placed before "to". These include negative and restrictive adverbs: "not" ("To be, or not to be"), "never", "hardly", "scarcely", "merely", "just"; and conjunctive adverbs: "rather", "preferably", "moreover", "alternatively". But placing adverbs of manner in this position is now considered good style only in legal English ("It is his/her duty faithfully to execute the provisions...").

Clumsy avoidance of split infinitives often leads to ambiguity. Does, "You fail completely to recognize." mean "You completely fail to recognize", or "You fail to completely recognize"? Ambiguous split infinitives are much rarer, but do exist. Does, "to further cement trade relations" mean "to cement trade relations further", or "to promote relations with the cement trade"?

Here's the best part...my absolute favorite, all-time, winning split infitive is the opening shpiel on the original Star Trek. (Yes, Kirk, you heard me right: "to boldly go where no man has gone before". (Star Trek: The Next Generation had "one" in place of "man".) Here, "boldly" modifies the entire verb phrase; the meaning is "to have the boldness that the unprecedentedness of the destinations requires". If "boldly" were placed after "go", it would modify only "go", changing the meaning to "to go where no man has gone before, and by the way, to go there boldly".

No "real" grammarian believes that infinitives should never be split. The dispute is between those who believe that split infinitives should be avoided when this can be done with no sacrifice of clarity or naturalness, and those who believe that no effort, whatsoever, should be made to avoid them.

Aren't you glad you asked??? Wanna hear somethin' REALLY scary? I like this stuff (I guess it is akin to when you guys talk about settings and pedals) and I love teaching it even more!!!

Now, if you would like to know about dangling participles, misplaced modifiers, or auxillary verbs (I can do all those in 6 seconds!) feel free to ask. (And to those who would like to see me put out with the trash on Wednesday night, I apologize. I mean well.)

Homework tonight is on my website. There will be a quiz on Friday, but I already gave you all an A, because you are all this teacher's favorites.

love, elizabeth

(NOW, may I sing background vocals? PLEASE???)
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nineacres · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:29 am Post subject:

... and how about brave women being called "heroes", and what about "60's" music, and there's more. What is happening to the English language???!!! (Can you tell I'm 52?)

Elizabeth, my dear, you are absolutely right. Thank you.

Actually, it brings to mind Winston Churchill's famous avoidance of ending a sentence with a preposition: "This is something up with which I will not put" ...

Dave
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elizabeth · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:14 am Post subject: Thank you so much, nineacres...

I expected to have rotten tomatoes hurled in my direction (or perhaps someone absconding with Kirk's new laser/phaser/taser gun.) Thanks for the validation. Smile

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