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How dumb was this or is hindsight 20/20?

 
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LongIslandRod
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: How dumb was this or is hindsight 20/20? Reply with quote

I saw a 1964 sunburst Strat in Guitar center selling for $32,500, yes that's $32,500! Shocked And it was pretty beat-up, the finish was worn off in spots and the neck was pretty bad too.

I had the same guitar in super mint condition in 1979 that I purchases at Rudy's Music in Manhattan for $850. I sold it a year later for $1,200 because I needed a car. So, I bought a Doge Dart w/Slant 6 enigine and another strat - a shitty strat at that.

I'm always kickin myself in the ass over that, but seeing that guitar in guitar center was like adding Rock Salt to my wounds! Evil or Very Mad

Can you say DUMB ASS?

I'm going to rummage through old photos for a picture it, I'll post it here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Not one to gloat! Reply with quote

Don't feel too bad Rod!

This'll make you feel better.............NOT!

Here's my '64






Sorry mate, couldn't resist Very Happy

Just out of interest how does the condition of mine stand up against the one you saw in GC?

Ron
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How dumb was this or is hindsight 20/20? Reply with quote

LongIslandRod wrote:
I saw a 1964 sunburst Strat in Guitar center selling for $32,500, yes that's $32,500! Shocked And it was pretty beat-up, the finish was worn off in spots and the neck was pretty bad too.



Was that guitar previously owned by somebody famous ?

Dumb Ass is the person who buys it for $32,500 Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron- the one in GC had more of the finish worn off down to the wood. yours in in better shape.


RWFTB- you're absolutely right, the person who buys it for 32K is a dumbass. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a collector with too much money to spend. This is where these instruments are being targeted these days, for better or worse. There is a good article in the recent Vintage Guitar about this syndrome - and how to just move on if you wind up kicking yourself over "how much that guitar you used to own is worth now." In reality they are just tools - if you are player. If you are a collector they are commodities to buy, sell and trade just like gold or art or whatever. They have nothing to do with music - which is what these instruments were meant for, IMHO.

Dodge Dart? What are they worth these days?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's one for sale on "The Gear Page" now that is listed at $40k. While it looks to be in great shape...

C'mon.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ron,

I hope you are well!

How does your '64 sound? I guess you don't gig that beauty Wink

Where did you get it, and what's the history, etc?

I hope to catch you at a gig soon.

BTW, are you catching one of Robben's gigs in November, and if so, which one?

All the best,

DD
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Fraid So Bud! Reply with quote

Hi DD
I'm doing well thanks, been very busy w gigs through the summer (normally 4 a week but did a run of 10 in 12 days and several with two gigs in one day phew!). I keep meaning to send you my TS-9 but keep forgetting Confused

The '64 sounds great but then you've heard it alot as it's all over the CD, maybe 10 out of the 18 tracks. Classic 60's strat sound, but needs a refret Crying or Very sad (don't know when I'll get round to that)

It's an early '64 with greenguard, spaghetti logo etc, all stock w OHSC. I got it from Rumbleseat Music in...L.A? (can't remember, got it a while ago before prices went insane, it's very nice but I certainly wouldn't have paid $32500 for it!)

I'm seeing RF at the Mean Fiddler gig, Nov 18th as I remember (even cancelled a gig because of it Cool ), are you going to that one, perhaps we could meet up?

In answer to your question about gigging the '64................



Fraid so Bud! As Telefunk said that's what these were made for. Twisted Evil

We're playing the Robert Kett again on the 29th of this month if you want to come along (I promise we'll play a whole bunch of RF for you!)

Take care

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, nice pint o' Guiness!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Er.....No! Reply with quote

Sorry Johnny it's actually 2 pints of Diet Coke Embarassed (can you spot the lemon in the one on the left)

Actually that photo was taken before I lost about 2 1/2 stone so a good advert for DC eh?

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear ya, Ronnie! But, is there a such thing as Diet Guiness?!
Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

Not AFAIK but if you find some let me know!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Fraid So Bud! Reply with quote

Ron S wrote:
Hi DD
I'm doing well thanks, been very busy w gigs through the summer (normally 4 a week but did a run of 10 in 12 days and several with two gigs in one day phew!). I keep meaning to send you my TS-9 but keep forgetting Confused

The '64 sounds great but then you've heard it alot as it's all over the CD, maybe 10 out of the 18 tracks. Classic 60's strat sound, but needs a refret Crying or Very sad (don't know when I'll get round to that)

It's an early '64 with greenguard, spaghetti logo etc, all stock w OHSC. I got it from Rumbleseat Music in...L.A? (can't remember, got it a while ago before prices went insane, it's very nice but I certainly wouldn't have paid $32500 for it!)

I'm seeing RF at the Mean Fiddler gig, Nov 18th as I remember (even cancelled a gig because of it Cool ), are you going to that one, perhaps we could meet up?



Hi Ron,

great pic; I think JZ has seen through the guise, and noticed that the diet coke is spiked with a strong tipple, hence the rather relaxed pose Very Happy

I really enjoyed the gig of yours I went to, and will definitely come to more (maybe hear the '64), when work and family commitments permit. I'll keep checking out your website.

With regards to the TS9 mod, as previously stated, I will happilly do it any time, free of charge of course!!!! Just drop me a line when it's convenient for you. i can let you try my modded TS9 first if you wish, and anyway if you ever changed your mind when/if yours is modded, I can always put it back exactly as before, with your exact components.

I would have love to met up with you at the Meanfiddler, but I can't make that date, and instead i am travelling to Robin Hood country, and to the Rescue Rooms at Nottingham (looks a swanky place too!). My first time there!

Take care mate,

Cheers,

DD
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Ron S.: Thanks for the clarification on the drinks. I spotted the lemon wedge, but figured that maybe Corona was now making a porter for the British market. Glad to see you're still using the axe at gigs. It's sorta' like a client of mine who does oilfield guage and tool stuff. He drives a stock 1929 Ford Model A with his business logo painted on the doors. Collectors razz him about driving this honey out on the dirt roads in the oilfields, but when you see him driving around town in a 77-year-old daily driver, it does your heart good.

We all have the "ones that got away" stories. Early in my career I had health insurance that didn't pay for "normal" childbirth. Only for problems. And I sure didn't want problems. I sold a 1965 Gibson Hummingbird and a 1968 Martin D-12-20 to pay for hospital bills when each of my two girls was born. In return, I got two really nice girls (the older of whom just spent the weekend with me at the Long Beach Blues Festival) who, when they're home, enjoy listening to Dad make music on some less-expensive, but still very serviceable, instruments. If I ever won $50M in the California lottery, maybe I'd think about "collecting" something. Say vintage Strats. Or Ferarris. Or Picasos. Or the worlds most extensive and history collection of parking lot receipts. 'Til then, I'll leave it to the folks who can afford it.

By the way, is Dweezle Zappa still asking for $1M for that Jimi Hendrix lit-on-fire-at-a-Florida-gig guitar that Hendrix gave to his dad? It's in HORRIBLE condition. Scrape off the burned parts, replace the neck, swap out the pickups, refinish the body (maybe do one of those neat Eddie Van Halen graphic designs), replace those old discolored knobs, re-fret, and THEN maybe I'll make an offer. Until then, Dweeze, don't call me. I'll call you.
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