Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Denver, CO
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:36 pm Post subject: Clear Channel is the devil
Amen, Aeolian!
Remember, on average Europeans get about 4-5 workweeks worth of vacation time per year, and yet as David shows in this thread, y'all are STILL online wasting worktime (e.g. posting here) more than us poor americans with our 1-2 weeks vacation average!
I was emailing with Scott Henderson's Blues Trio bass player. He told me that Scott can not afford to tour in the US without label tour support. But can they make money touring in Europe.
Hey I live in Boulder...what do I know moving over there!
Bumping on this , ok they can make money touring over europe, but it is the same problem , they do it as a trio, in small venues, no stadium,
a lot of past 40 Music, Guitar addicted, Gzear looking dudes.
Over the past ten / fifteen years who made it in the fench market :
Lucky Peterson sponsorized by a great French Tobacco Company ( hey
guess who is the company : french government !!! so we have Lucky Peterson sponsorized by GITANES ''some of u may have smoke this shit "),
then we have Luther Allison (RIP) a little of bernard his son, but not so much, and the big , the mighty Poppa Chubby, he is touring a lot more than Robben, what can i say, i wil copy you Anglo saxons and say : Don't get me wrong i love the way poppa C. loves to play da blues Buuuuuuttttttttttt in my Huummmmmmmmmbbbbbbbble opinion i wil always have the big Thrill listening to RF. So to say it's not sure you can see R F more in Europe than in the US. Neither Scot H. Broadway th hard way. Lobster
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 142 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:52 pm Post subject:
FWIW we have a similar problem in Australia - really hard attracting good overseas artists here on a regular basis (if at all). We're so far away from both the US and Europe and our main cities are so far apart that it's just not cost effective for many artists to tour here.
I did notice on Daved's website though that Robben toured New Zealand not so long ago (maybe he popped over to Australia too and I missed it ).
Having said that, artists of his calibre are always well received when over here, although there's always a certain moron element that only know him by reputation as a great blues player, so keep yelling out for Hendrix tunes. Go figure - you have some more music to listen to dudes!
Have seen the same thing happen last time Clapton toured (1991) - the hecklers that gig (behind me) also thought the support act was a crap guitarist. If anyone's ever seen Tommy Emmanuel play you'd know why I was a bit puzzled.
Anyway, Robben - COME BACK!!!
Chris _________________ because I rock, and that's important.
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:48 am Post subject: ideas...Please Clarify
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At least down in San Jose Robben's legacy lives on. You can walk into any jam night at JJ's and call Help the Poor and folks will know it. Even the folks we refer to as "blues nazi's" (no 6th's and definitely no b5's allowed) at least know of and respect Robben.
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Hey Aeolian (lord of the winds) Please Clarify : I think i never played
a blues without the Flat fifth, is it possible to do this ? not playing the flat fifth ??? Am i allowed to bend strings ?????
The 6th i don't mind since at this point i still don't hear it the way Mr Ford
encourages, but the Diabolus en Musicam , i want to go JJ's and have
a NaZI jam Please answer .
Blobster
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:47 am Post subject: Re: My ideas...
elizabeth wrote:
Interesting questions. One problem I see is that some of the assumptions are not correct. Most of the performances I have seen in the past five years were sold out. My guess is that additional shows could have been added. The SF and Santa Cruz Blues Festivals are always packed and often sell out. What makes anyone say that Robben is not respected in the US? I think he is incredibly respected here, though not consumed by the masses.
Ok , But we all know that California is the Black little duck of AmeriKKKa,
therefore Liz your assumption is not correct, because Northern Cal.
Is another planet, and SF bay area is the place where Ford Bros are
highly venerated (kind of icons). So ok they play sold out . But go back
to the thread where people complain that they seldom go texas, and never been in Florida ( Andrea set up a gig overthere!!!!!!!!=)
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:00 am Post subject: Come over here Elisabeth !
Hallo Elisabeth,
Come to Belgium if you want, then you're also out of PLESANTVILLE !
But I have to say that Brussels is not a very good city to live in !
I was born in a little town about 70 km from Brussels and lived there with my parents for about 25 years ! Then I've moved to Brussels and started at the Police academy where I worked for 3 years on the force. You can't imagin what I've seen down on the streets of Brussels ! A lot of homeless people, a lot of immigrants (Turkisch, Marok's, Albanees, Pakistanees, and many others...) and it will be getting more like this becaus there is so much wellness, money around everywhere. The BELGIUM welfair is the biggest plant on the whole state !
But afterall it's liveble and as long we can work it's good for our kids and we can spend money on what we want to ! This last thing will be, in my case, Robben Ford and the Blue LIne !
Greetings,
Fill from Bussels. _________________ Filmore
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:59 am Post subject: I can' Help
Hey Filmore , i can't help myself, Oh man i am so cheesy sometimes,
So you are a cop , wonderful , i KNEW belgians were a Gas, in france they use to make an awful fun off beligans. But when i was in L.A
better strick whith 10 belgians than a sick french.
So what ? Ist it allowed to smoke in Belgiy , Weed??? or not.
Anyway i whish you all the best and keep da police groovin'.
Blob
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:29 am Post subject: Weedsmokin' french dude !
Hey blob,
As a member of DEA (drug enforcement agency - or in frenche : Recherche Federale) I must tell you that the Belgium lawinstitution is very strickt for what's drugs use is about !!!
But stupid politicians had to make a new law (dated june 2003) that make allowed that you can smoke weed (and shit-hasj) if you are in your own house, not with friends or underage and not with underaged people. You can have in your posession max. 3 grams of weed, not more ! They call it soft drugs. It's not allowed to use hard drugs at all, ofcorse (speed-cocaine-crack-etc....). It's a job that never ends !
It's a dirty job....but somebody got to do it!
Every day a little bit of dirty Harry (make my day!) and we will get true !
Golden rule : don't smoke at all !!! Listen to music !!! Get a lot of woman, make little ones..... !!! Get a beer or twenty....
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:38 am Post subject: Weedsmokin' all lungs long
Filmore wrote:
Hey blob,
As a member of DEA (drug enforcement agency - or in frenche : Recherche Federale) I must tell you that the Belgium lawinstitution is very strickt for what's drugs use is about !!!
But stupid politicians had to make a new law (dated june 2003) that make allowed that you can smoke weed (and shit-hasj) if you are in your own house, not with friends or underage and not with underaged people. You can have in your posession max. 3 grams of weed, not more ! They call it soft drugs. It's not allowed to use hard drugs at all, ofcorse (speed-cocaine-crack-etc....). It's a job that never ends !
It's a dirty job....but somebody got to do it!
Every day a little bit of dirty Harry (make my day!) and we will get true !
Golden rule : don't smoke at all !!! Listen to music !!! Get a lot of woman, make little ones..... !!! Get a beer or twenty....
Greetings,
Fill from Brussels.
Hey Filmore you made my day ( look at my pun ) At least (last) one good new today i can go to belgium with 3 grms in my pocket, at my age it's enough to survive a week if the dope is good. Then thanks for the kind words but i am missing one lung yet & trying to cease a lot of things definitely. On an other hand i've been in Brussels , i was with an ex roommate from us, and it's a pretty weird town like every others big towns in the depth of nighhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttt.
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Denver, CO
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:48 pm Post subject:
Hey Filmore,
So you are insinuating that it's OK to drink 20 beers (and maybe ruin your liver?), but that weed should be avoided? Is this correct?
So the government should be able to control marijuana consumption, a drug that, according to nearly every study (and many who use it), does NOT impair one's ability to drive while it's legal and rational (to you) that THOUSANDS of pubs remain. Of course, inside a pub one can get WASTED for cheap, legally, and drive home (of course it's illegal to drive drunk, but doesn't stop the countless fools who do it!) - risking everyone who drives near them, right? _________________ Work hard, play harder
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 886 Location: SF Bay Area
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: ideas...Please Clarify
Bluelobster wrote:
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Hey Aeolian (lord of the winds) Please Clarify : I think i never played
a blues without the Flat fifth, is it possible to do this ? not playing the flat fifth ??? Am i allowed to bend strings ?????
The 6th i don't mind since at this point i still don't hear it the way Mr Ford
encourages, but the Diabolus en Musicam , i want to go JJ's and have
a NaZI jam Please answer .
Blobster
You can only bend a semitone like you had heavy flatwounds. The guys I'm refering to are stuck in the '50s. Louis Jordan wrote some cool songs but these guys have to play them exactly the way they were done originally. You must have an old guitar from the '50s (extra points for fighting with an old switchmaster or other archtop) and a tweed amp (brown Concerts and "real" blackface small Fenders are acceptable if you get the right sound). You must roll off the tone and then pick real hard right at the bridge to get a choked off nasal sound with no sustain, just like the lousy equipment and recording of the old days. No fluid, melodic lines and only in minor pentatonic. b5's are only allowed over the raised 4 in swing songs. Never anywhere else. These guys are highly offended by overdrive and consider any use of it to be rock, not blues. Basses have flatwounds and drums are Radio Kings or at least old Ludwigs. The harmonica noodles constantly though everyone else's solos (I actually had a harp player tell me he was going to play "rhythm" behind me.)
There are folks playing this style who are aware of and respect other players such as Robben but chose this style because they enjoy it. And I have no quarrel with them. We respect each other and learn from each others approaches. But when I get sour looks from switching on the OD and holding a long note, or playing some out phrase for tension, then the absolutness and self-rightousness of these people gets to me. As the Willie Brown character said at the end of Crossroads, "you have to pick the music up where you found it, and take it someplace else".
Lobby,
Cool that you picked up on the name. My other love is sailing. As for 6th's, try easing one back and forth to the dom 7th. Especially if you do the Jeff thing and never quite reach it. Do this where you would normally do the 7th to tonic bend. Gives a cool Robbenesque flavor and might get the idea stuck in your ear. You can do the same thing fromt he 9th to minor 3rd.
I agree about the b5. Ever since "Blues with a Feeling", that has been stuck in my ear. At the Oct clinic Robben pulled out the Butterfield CD and played it for everyone. I was jazzed that this was the first cut he picked. _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
My Stuff: www.stevekirbymusic.com
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 401 Location: College Station, TX
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:21 am Post subject:
A - this cracks me up. I love the old Jordan stuff, and have known some purists like this, too. But what about T-Bone Walker, man some of his stuff gets close to the OD sound we all love. A guitarist who treads the line between the pure and the present is Duke Robillard - great player who can do it all, sometime in the same song!
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 886 Location: SF Bay Area
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:39 pm Post subject:
telefunk1 wrote:
A - this cracks me up. I love the old Jordan stuff, and have known some purists like this, too. But what about T-Bone Walker, man some of his stuff gets close to the OD sound we all love. A guitarist who treads the line between the pure and the present is Duke Robillard - great player who can do it all, sometime in the same song!
Yeah, have you heard Duke's "Swing" album. Also there's Junior Watson who gets wild from time to time. And Gatemouth, who was playing jazz harmony over old fashioned blues a long time ago.
Robben was playing some rhythm with walking bass lines at the Oct clinic that showed he can go there too, and get really greasy. It'd be fun to hear his take on some Texas swing. _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
My Stuff: www.stevekirbymusic.com
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 401 Location: College Station, TX
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:40 am Post subject:
I used to mainline Duke's 'Swing" LP - what a great disc to play along with, as is the follow up "After Hours..." His CDs with Herb Ellis should be required listening, too. And Gatemouth?! The man wrote the book on jump blues - have you heard the early 70s stuff he did in France with Mickey Baker and Milt Bruckner? gate can sound like antire horn section on the guitar when he wants to - amazing sense of swing.
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 401 Location: College Station, TX
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:41 am Post subject:
Jeez - I need to proofread my posts better...
Anyway, A, if you have a copy of RF with Spoon Live at the Mint you need to play the blues nazis their version of Jimmy Reed's 'Big Boss Man' - it really swings.
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Am i allowed to bend strings 
Please answer .
Hey Filmore , i can't help myself, Oh man i am so cheesy sometimes,
