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kirk95 Starship Captain
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1043 Location: Boulder, CO
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Aeolian Senior Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 886 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Charlie Christian? At least they weren't guitar lines when he played them.
But most of all, Django. I would love to hear someone play that stuff with a Robbenesque tone. I heard one thing on the radio once that was attribituted to an Ellington small combo that had Django on an electric taking a big cadenza in the middle of something. At first I thought it was Joe Pass but then there were these long melodic lines that the phrasing sounded Django like. The sustain of the electric brought stuff out of him like I've never heard. I've never been able to find that recording. Just imagine what Django would have done if the had the sustain of a solid body and a Dumble! _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
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elizabeth Robben Fan #1
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 534 Location: SF Bay area
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:38 pm Post subject: Don't know much about... |
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I don't know about guitar lines, but Captain, you have great taste in music. You too, Aeolian...got all those guys on vinyl! _________________ www.elizabethgage.com |
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fingerlakes Senior Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 107 Location: upstate,NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Not being a guitarist I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But if it's doing other neat stuff besides playing melodic lines I like some of these guys :
Andy Summers
Alex Lifeson
Jeff Beck
Robert Fripp
David Gilmour |
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bluesman Senior Member
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 219 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:02 am Post subject: |
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One and only - Allan Holdsworth! |
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srammell Senior Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 73 Location: Bristol, England,UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Eric Johnson, Francis Dunnery, James Grant - not sure if I understand the question completely but all of these guitar players, tend to emphasise the 'song' whilst adding to and being extremely capable of letting fly when required, or just for the hell of it sometimes.
I know its a bit of a cliche, butr the real test of a player and the song is when you can do it unplugged and still achieve the same level of emotion, intensity and recognition - which of course Robben can do at will ref: authorised bootleg album for one! |
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midc74 Senior Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 70 Location: Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:32 am Post subject: |
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How about Steve Cropper, Arlen Roth, and Danny Gatton. Those guys were always playing horn/organ lines... and all of them excellent players!
Speaking of which.... I think I'll have to listen to some of them this week.
Patrick
P.S. - How many of you knew that Steve Cropper produced Robben's first solo album in '79 (The Inside Story). Some of Robben's early fusion, and the session that "formed" The Yellowjackets. |
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PierreL Senior Member
Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 862 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Frank Gambale... I know he's got a reputation as a shredder kind of player, and to be honest I am not really a fan of his playing or his music, but there are some solos I heard him play that really sound like sax lines , especially when he slows down a little |
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Aeolian Senior Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 886 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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PierreL wrote: | Frank Gambale... I know he's got a reputation as a shredder kind of player, and to be honest I am not really a fan of his playing or his music, but there are some solos I heard him play that really sound like sax lines , especially when he slows down a little |
The heads that Frank writes are horn like and melodic. But it's like the opposite of Robben. Frank creates harmonic contrasts by putting complex changes under a simple melodic concept. While Robben creates contrasts by playing interesting melodic lines over simpler progressions. I respect them both. Having met Frank, his command of theory is frightening. The way he writes and plays just shows a different application of sophistication than we are used to with Robben. _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
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iamthewalrus Senior Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 117 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:11 am Post subject: un-guitaristic guitarists |
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bluesman wrote: | One and only - Allan Holdsworth! |
I have to second this one. There's no more idosyncratic a player than Mr. Holdsworth. Years ago I took John Cuniberti (producer, engineer for Joe Satriani) to a Holdsworth concert in Berkeley and his take was, 'I'd rather just listen to a great sax player.' _________________ iamthewalrus
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Daved Robben Connection
Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 943 Location: Terra Firma, Ether Sea
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Walrus, If you are still in touch with John, please tell him 'Hello' for me. I haven't seen him in ages... since around the time I studio teched for Joe on the first attempt to record the "Extremist" album, in and around San Francisco. _________________ B C-ing U!
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"This boy's diseased with rhythm!" -Bing Crosby (Road To Rio, '49) |
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nineacres Senior Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Hartlepool, U.K.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Anyone listen to Blind Blake? It's often been said he sounded like a piano player. Amazing stuff! Check out "Police Dog Blues" (of which Ry Cooder did a nice version) _________________ "Creativeness often consists of merely turning up what is already there. Did you know that right and left shoes were only thought up a little more than a century ago?" - Bernice Fitz-Gibbon 1894-1982 |
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