Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:21 am Post subject:
JackD wrote:
henkholland wrote:
Just received mine today
Henk
Henk:
Any review yet? What do you think of the DVD?
Sorry,
I only had time to watch the introduction of the DVD and that was pretty cool. I really like the way Robben is playing rhythm (for example on "Orbit"). Regarding the pdf file, there is a lot to learn (at least for me). I've scheduled "my moment" of watching the complete DVD with Xmas.
Henk
Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 178 Location: Oceanside, CA
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject:
My copy arrived this afternoon from Music Dispatch and I watched it in its entirety. As I've mentioned many times in previous posts, I've always considered Robben one of the finest rhythm guitarists around. Anyone who watches this DVD will understand why immediately.........incredible placement of alternate chords and great rhythm chops. I'm sure the 2nd DVD, "The Art of Blues Solos" will be as good. I hope you enjoy the video as much as I did. Merry Christmas.
Thanks for clarifying the region Henk! Well, it looks like Santa will not have one in time for me for Christmas, but I will make sure it goes on my New Years must have list.
Cheers,
DD _________________ Music is the universal language; speak it with emotion, listen with a passion.
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: DVD Ordering
Geez, the shipping costs to Germany are almost the same as the DVD costs in that shop posted above That's insane...
Is there any affordable way to get the new DVD in Europe?
Why isn't it on the website yet btw.?
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 243 Location: Rochester, MI
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject:
I got my copy of the DVD yesterday. I think its great. It really captures the feel of one of Robben's clinics (how he just talks from the heart and doesn't get too technical, etc.). I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to volume 2 that comes out in a few months.
What also cool is since I was a student in attendance at the event, I made the photo on the back cover and probably 15 shots during the video (I'm the bald guy in the second row to Robben's left, right behind the kid)!
Joined: 29 Jan 2004 Posts: 1504 Location: Methuen, MA
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:11 am Post subject:
I don't have much theory behind me as you'll see from this basic question. In example 2 of the companion pdf of the dvd, directly above the start of the music notation, it states "Use over G7" For those who don't have this pdf, Robben's showing an example of major triads in rhythm, specifically C, F, and G. And, the pattern he's using is CFCGFC | GFCG | FCG | FCG and so on...
BTW, I just got the dvd this morning and I'm watching/listening to it right now, about 38 minutes through, and it's great! I went to a clinic a couple of years ago, and it's just like being there! The companion pdf is great too. I wish I had my guitar with me (I'm at work)...
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Southern California
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:
JohnnyZ wrote:
I don't have much theory behind me as you'll see from this basic question. In example 2 of the companion pdf of the dvd, directly above the start of the music notation, it states "Use over G7" For those who don't have this pdf, Robben's showing an example of major triads in rhythm, specifically C, F, and G. And, the pattern he's using is CFCGFC | GFCG | FCG | FCG and so on...
Johnny, maybe I missed something, but what's the question part of this?
Jim _________________ "Somebody's got to make some music around here." - Robben Ford
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 197 Location: San Jose Ca.
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:
You're about to get into modal harmony, Johnny. I think he's talking about these like they are the triads from mode 4 (F Lydian) and mode 5 (G7 Mixolydian which is the dominant mode) in the key of C. He talks about using those triads on an old clinic tape I have. Three notes=triad, four notes gets into the extensions. The way to hear the mode is to start with a C scale and play it. Start from the next note (D) but play it like you already played the C note. Note the different sound. Same with E and so on and you'll have built the modes in major. To build the chords in major, it's a series of odd/even notes. The first triad (C) is the 1st, 3rd, and 5th notes of the scale, the second chord is the 2nd,4th and 6th, and you keep stacking them till the last note. Chord Chemistry by Ted Green isn't quite as long winded as my little dissertation, but that's where I got it from. This formula is the basic building block of music and it applies to all scales I think. Once I saw this formula, basic music harmony was no longer a hit and miss thing for me.
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Southern California
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:59 am Post subject:
JohnnyZ wrote:
Yeah, I didn't emphasize what I'm asking. I don't understand the "Use over G7" in the example. What does G7 have to do with CGF?
I see. Well, G7 is the V chord of a harmonized C major scale (in simple triads, that's C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim. Make each chord 4 notes and that G will turn into a G7) If Robben didn't already say it in the video, he will, and he'll tell you that any 7th chord is a V chord. What he means is a V chord always wants to resolve back to its respective I chord. Anyway, you can see above that I gave you the triads that make up the harmonized C major scale. See how the I chord is C, the IV chord is F and the V chord is G? That's because the formula used to harmonize a major scale will always give you the same result and that is a major I, IV, and V chord. In the case of C, that gives you C, F, and G. So, he's saying you can play C, F, and G triads over that G7 all day long because we know the G7, being the V chord of C, means a) the notes are all from the C major scale (no sharps or flats) and b) the notes of C, F, and G, also being diatonic to the C major scale, means those chords will also fit over the G7. Every note we're talking about here is from C major.
Hope that helps. _________________ "Somebody's got to make some music around here." - Robben Ford
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Joined: 29 Jan 2004 Posts: 1504 Location: Methuen, MA
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:
Thank you both. It does help. I don't completely get it yet, but I do follow what both of you have written (I think!). And, after the Ted Green Chord Chemistry tip, I researched it and read the many positive and informative reviews, and ordered it. It seems that it might be the right tool to give me the understanding that I need (as long as I apply myself)...
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 197 Location: San Jose Ca.
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject:
Yeah, Johnny. Its in the chapter called "Fundamental Harmonies of Scales". This chapter I always thought should have been after the chapter called "the major scale" since it immediately gets you into what modes are and how to build chords off scales. You'll get it after you read it. Even Holdsworth's harmony is based off regular old modal harmony when you look at his books, but his hands are so big he can change note placement on chords to make them sound like new, not of this earth chords!
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Upper Yukon River, Eagle, Ak
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject:
Mail plane brought my copy just the other day, good stuff; hey Moonchild and all. I kinda got to watch his fingers before trying different chords that I haven't used.
I think I have most RF's books, dvds, and cd's. This new dvd seems to be done in a different manner. My son even watched it on his own; say it ain't so.
Thierry, Thanks for the heads up on this one; looking forward to the nx one in a couple months _________________ Strats with surfers & blonds, Teles with fralins & novaks, Bruno Cowtipper
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