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Robben's '99 Les Paul - Daved tell us more please

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Robben's '99 Les Paul - Daved tell us more please Reply with quote

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As for the LP, Fenderboy, it is a '99. Besides wanting to break in the new LP (I've been tweaking and fine tuning it to Robben's touch), Robben also wanted to have it specifically for use with the Jing Chi segment of this leg of the tour as his older Les Paul featured heavily in the JC studio recordings. Robben still loves his Baker and it will be back on the road with us shortly.


Daved, can you tell us more about Robben's touring Les Paul?

What are the pickups?

Is it a Gibson Historic? 59?

Any mods?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, please tell us. I'm interested to know.

Saw him when he was over here in Singapore.
It was wonderful.

The LP seemed to have a pull pot on the bridge tone control to split the pickup on the bridge and Robben used it quite alot.

I guess it must have been duncans JB on the bridge and 59 on the neck?

At one point he pushed the pot in and the guitar started to feedback.

Can't wait to have him over again. What a show!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzyjoepass wrote:
Yes, please tell us. I'm interested to know.

Saw him when he was over here in Singapore.
It was wonderful.

The LP seemed to have a pull pot on the bridge tone control to split the pickup on the bridge and Robben used it quite alot.

I guess it must have been duncans JB on the bridge and 59 on the neck?

At one point he pushed the pot in and the guitar started to feedback.

Can't wait to have him over again. What a show!


So, more details please. How was the show? what songs did he use the LP for?, did you make the clinics Sunday? I'm actually over here in Singapore this week on business, any good music stores worth checking out?
Cheers,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no specific labels on the LP indicating anything unusual, tho Robben says it is a '99 and he was told it is a reissue with '57 pickups. He says he really doesn't know much more than that except that he likes it alot.

One tone pot does have a pull switch for splitting the coil which Robben finds uncomfortable, so I plan to replace it with a pot with a tap switch.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeolian,

There's a new shop called Guitar77 here down at Excelsior Hotel basement. Chap's name is DENNIS.

You can find a couple of pre-EdRoman Bakers!!! They've got Heritage, PRSes and Dillion too. If you're into acoustics, they are retailing the MATONs made famous by Australian CGP Tommy Emmanuel who had Robben Ford play on his LPs too.

5 Coleman Street,
B1-23, Excelsior Hotel,
Singapore 179804.
Tel: +(65)63333385, Fax: +(65)63333386
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Tell Dennis, Mike told you about his wonderful place.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daved wrote:
There are no specific labels on the LP indicating anything unusual, tho Robben says it is a '99 and he was told it is a reissue with '57 pickups. He says he really doesn't know much more than that except that he likes it alot.

One tone pot does have a pull switch for splitting the coil which Robben finds uncomfortable, so I plan to replace it with a pot with a tap switch.


Daved - If the guitar is a '59 Historic Reissue, it will have "R9" stamped inside the control cavity. And to determine the guitar's vintage, the serial number will be in this format- "X XXXX(X)". The first digit signifies the model (a 9 means a '59 reissue), the second digit is year of manufacture (another 9 would mean 1999), and the remaining 3 (sometimes 4) digits are just chronologically assigned during the year of production. As an example, my '99 reissue is "9 9700". And my 2003 '57 reissue is "7 3052".

Not that it really matters, but many die-hard Les Paul players find that 1999 was one of Gibson's best years for the Historic reissue and some of them have become quite desirable. FWIW.

Best - Tom
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can find a couple of pre-EdRoman Bakers!!! They've got Heritage, PRSes and Dillion too. If you're into acoustics, they are retailing the MATONs made famous by Australian CGP Tommy Emmanuel who had Robben Ford play on his LPs too.


Maybe my location makes me biased, but I can highly recommend Maton acoustics for anyone thats in the market for one - worth trying if you see them around. Not so keen on their electrics though, but that's mainly a matter of taste. Just make sure it's not one of Tommy's old ones though as he tends to beat the hell out of them!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stock pick-ups on the '99 R9 and R0 are the '57 classics. By looking at the picture the new LP looks like a historic reissue, but I can't tell if it's a '59 or a '60 reissue. Need to be able to see the volume and tone control knobs clearer. Anyway, it looks awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flavum wrote:
Daved - If the guitar is a '59 Historic Reissue, it will have "R9" stamped inside the control cavity. And to determine the guitar's vintage, the serial number will be in this format- "X XXXX(X)". The first digit signifies the model (a 9 means a '59 reissue), the second digit is year of manufacture (another 9 would mean 1999), and the remaining 3 (sometimes 4) digits are just chronologically assigned during the year of production. As an example, my '99 reissue is "9 9700". And my 2003 '57 reissue is "7 3052". Best - Tom


Thanx for the info, Tom. I'll check it out & get back to you.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: coil splitting versus coil tapping??? Reply with quote

I've always been stunned with the clarity of Robben's tones, and wonder if there is a difference between his humbuckers being "tapped" versus "split". My understanding is that splitting the coils simply gives you one of the two coils. I'm wondering if "tapping" the humbucker is something different.

I'm not sure what Daved's comment below refers to, and wonder if anyone can clarify. Sorry to dig up an old post...

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Daved wrote:
There are no specific labels on the LP indicating anything unusual, tho Robben says it is a '99 and he was told it is a reissue with '57 pickups. He says he really doesn't know much more than that except that he likes it alot.

One tone pot does have a pull switch for splitting the coil which Robben finds uncomfortable, so I plan to replace it with a pot with a tap switch.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

>> Sorry to dig up an old post...

Don't be sorry at all! I was impressed when I saw the date of the original post that it was over 5 years old and someone took the time to go back that far!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed that Daved meant replacing a pull/push knob with a push/push knob for splitting the coils? - just a more convenient switch, easier to deal with in the heat of battle.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon07 - Thanks for the reply. I know some of Robben's guitars have a switch, and others use a pot with a built in switch. I just wasn't sure if there was a difference between "coil tapping" and "coil splitting".

I've been hunting for a humbucker that sounds good split (or tapped, or whatever), and Robben's guitars always sound full and rich. I'm not entirely sure when I'm hearing a split humbucker sound, but his tone never sounds thin like any split humbucker I've heard before. Does Robben do anything to compensate for the tonal shift and volume drop associated with the split mode? I certainly don't expect to make a Les Paul sound like a Tele, but most humbuckers sound thin and lifeless in split mode. Aside from Robben's exceptional playing technique, I'm curious how Robben gets such a full sound in split mode.

While sifting through some other (vintage) posts, I read that some push/push pots tend to be electronically sound, but mechanically unreliable. Also, some players prefer the push/pull knob for visual reference.

Jon07 wrote:
I assumed that Daved meant replacing a pull/push knob with a push/push knob for splitting the coils? - just a more convenient switch, easier to deal with in the heat of battle.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: tap switch Reply with quote

I've got a couple of guitars with the push/pull switches and I don't like them very much. It does provide a visual reference, but the pull function can be difficult to access on the fly - especially with a smooth knob like most LP's have. You have to get a fingernail under the knob to pull it up and it can really throw your rhythm off.
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