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adamguitar
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: EQ Bypass / Overdrive Channel Reply with quote

I've been lurking here for about a year now, but can't find an answer to this question.
I was wondering whether the majority of the gain comes from the overdrive channel or the EQ bypass on Robben's dumble?
You can here on 'Freedom' on the Tigerwalk album how he switches from clean to a breaking up sound and then to full on saturation? What switch did he most likely hit first? Maybe someone with a Two Rock or Fuchs could shed some light on this for me.
I use an old Boogie Mark II C+ (the closest thing I could find and afford in Australia). I got a local tech to tweak it a couple of weeks ago and add a footswitchable bypass. I was suprised with the amount of gain it delivered - more than the overdrive channel and it got me thinking. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the Tele when he's playing blues (like the last two albums), Robben tends to hit the tone bypass first and occasionally the lead channel, and very rarely both together. In the Tiger Walk days when he was still using the Fender RF's he would hit the lead channel with the coil tap on and then switch to humbucking for more gain. And again very rarely use both together for that real saturated sound. Depending on where you set things my experience is that the Two Rocks have more volume jump and gain increase using the tone bypass than the Fuchs do, especially the older TR's. The Opal and CR have less dramatic jumps. I have both my Fuchs set up so that my second footswitch kicks in the mid boost rather than the tone bypass. I find this to be more musical and useful although just using it by itself doesn't give much crunch. It does give a nice thick saturation to the lead channel though. So I set up my lead with less gain and turn the guitar down slightly for moderate breakup, opening it up and hitting the mid boost to do saturated BlueLine type tones.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Robben using the Tele exclusively on the last two records? What about the Baker he's brandishing on the cover of KOR?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look on Daved's site, there were a whole bunch of different guitars around the studio during Keep On Running's tracking sessions. Following this album, Robben was using the Black Baker and the Tele. Lately it's been the Tele and Les Paul, causing Captain Kirk to ask Daved what happened to the Baker. The last several times I've seen Robben, he's using the Tele more and more. Especially when playing blues with his brothers or supporting the blues oriented albums. Somewhere along the line he pulls out various oddball things like an Epi Riviera at Yoshi's a couple of years ago, the 355 at the last clinic I went to which he said was just sitting in the case under the piano (a grand I presume Smile )

I wonder just how many different guitars Robben has?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeolian wrote:

I wonder just how many different guitars Robben has?


That's an interesting question. It seems he is changing a lot but I guess that only goes for the endorsements. In an interview a couple of years ago he talked about his collection. He said he didn't concider himself a collector but rather a player. So he buys guitar to play on them and not hanging them on the wall. In this interview he mentioned his Tele, which he mentioned as his number one. He also mentioned three Gibson 345's. On of these Gibsons he used on the first track of "Supernatural". Then he talked about his Les Paul Goldtop and a vintige 57' Strat. Still it would be nice to know his entire collection............
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that's funny I would swear that that track on Tigeralk is played on the Tele. If it's the RF Sig I would be very suprised. It is hard tell the difference sometimes with Robben - always sounds like him!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then he talked about his Les Paul Goldtop and a vintige 57' Strat.

Didn't Robben use Strats for rhythm tracks at one point? He's a very unlikely Strat player!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then he talked about his Les Paul Goldtop and a vintige 57' Strat.

Didn't Robben use Strats for rhythm tracks at one point? He's a very unlikely Strat player!


That's hard to tell. I know he used a Strat during his period with Miles Davis. His legendary soloing during the Montreux '86 concert with Miles is a good example. I'm pretty sure he also uses a Strat on some Tigerwalk and Supernatural tracks.
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