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UncleSalty Senior Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Ibaraki, Japan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: Guitar player on Steely Dan's My Rival? |
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Anybody know who it is? It doesn't sound like Larry Carlton but whoever it is plays a very tasteful solo with a lovely tone.
Cheers
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AndyR Senior Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Baltimore, Md
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:05 am Post subject: My Rival credits |
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My Rival - 4:30
(Walter Becker/Donald Fagen)
Drums: Steve Gadd
Bass: Anthony Jackson
Electric Piano: Patrick Rebillot
Organ/Synthesizer: Donald Fagen
Guitars: Hiram Bullock, Rick Derringer
Solo Guitar: Steve Khan
Percussion: Ralph McDonald
Timbales: Nicholas Marrero
Flügelhorn: Randy Brecker
Tenor: Michael Brecker
Tenor/Lyricon: Tom Scott
Trombone: Wayne Andre
Backup Vocals: Valerie Simpson, Frank Floyd, Zack Sanders
Horns arranged by Tom Scott
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Bluelobster Senior Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 1172 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: H<B |
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Hiram Bullocks :
- Rules
- is Great
- yeah
- Dig it |
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Aeolian Senior Member
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 886 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Yes Lobby, I love Hiram too, but it said "solo guitar" Steve Khan. Haven't heard the song but you never know when one of these LA cats is going to let loose with something special. _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
My Stuff: www.stevekirbymusic.com |
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Daved Robben Connection
Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 943 Location: Terra Firma, Ether Sea
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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And what about that little Ricky Zehringer? He certainly has come a long way & travelled a very impressive road since his humble beginnings with the McCoys and "Hang On Sloopy"!!! _________________ B C-ing U!
( }:-Daved
"This boy's diseased with rhythm!" -Bing Crosby (Road To Rio, '49) |
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UncleSalty Senior Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Ibaraki, Japan
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Andy. I know you're a bit of a fan so I thought you'd be able to help me. I listened to the song again and you'd be hard pressed to notice the contributions of Mr Derringer. Makes sense that the funky comping is Hiram Bullock but there's absolutely no Rock'n'Roll Hoochie Coo on here. Steve Khan's solo isn't mind blowing but it's very tasteful and the tone caught my ear. I didn't realise that he was a studio player. |
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AndyR Senior Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Baltimore, Md
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:57 am Post subject: Steely Fan |
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Ya know, fellas...
I think I am a little more partial to the early (pre '75) Dan stuff, more rock-ish, more "edge" on the guitars (yeah, me the jazz buff...go figure! )
These tunes rank amoungst my favorites for guitar work:
Reelin In the Years
Kings
Bodhisattva
The Boston Rag
My Old School
King Of The World
Rikki
Night By Night
Some GREAT solo work...chunky, edgey, distorted, fusiony...
I think this was my first experience hearing rockers play something other than I-IV-V blues-based stuff or pop tunes...(well, second, after Randy Bachman's "Lookin' Out For Number One." As a kid, I really liked Guess Who.)
I think the bulk of the work was Denny Dias/Skunk Baxter/Walter Becker, with the occasional Elliot Randall thrown in.
AWESOME stuff!!!
Andy
(ps, Daved is right, Rick D is the bomb, too.) |
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AndyR Senior Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Baltimore, Md
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: Forgot to add... |
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...those pre-'75 tunes I mention all rank high on the AGI...
Air Guitar Index !!! |
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UncleSalty Senior Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Ibaraki, Japan
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Steely Fan |
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AndyR wrote: | (ps, Daved is right, Rick D is the bomb, too.) |
On Steely Dan stuff?!? What does he play on? I had no idea he played on Dan stuff.
And, to add my 2 cents, Reelin' In The Years is every bit as wonderful as the much more lauded Kid Charlemagne. I agree with you Andy about the pre-'75 rawness, although, with Steely Dan, slick never translates into saccharine, even on their latest stuff. |
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AndyR Senior Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Baltimore, Md
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:51 am Post subject: Credits |
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Derringer gets credit on the following SD albums:
Countdown To Ecstasy
Katy Lied
Gaucho
He has quite a resume; check out: http://www.rickderringer.com/
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kirk95 Starship Captain
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1043 Location: Boulder, CO
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AndyR Senior Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Baltimore, Md
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: I HEAR ya! |
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kirk say
Quote: | ...wore out that "Johnny Winter And" LP - that is a killer record...
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Me and my best buddy always considered "It's My Own Fault" to be a benchmark blues recording...young Derringer is clearly outclassed by Winter, but plays tasty stuff nonetheless, accessible to us mere mortals.
Winter's playing, OTOH, is inhumanly impossible...the clean speed, the imagination, the passion...and just listen to Winter's jazzy comping beneath Derringer's laid-back solo...
Those who haven't seen Winter should do so while he's still touring...I don't think he's in the best of health these days.
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UncleSalty Senior Member
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Ibaraki, Japan
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I love Johnny Winter And Live as well. I remember the studio album was quite tame, particularly the guitarwork, but this more than made up for it. For me, Johnny's slide playing is what really makes him special and Mean Town Blues features some of his best work. I also have to say that I prefer the Johnny Winter And version of Rock & Roll Hoochie Coo over the more well-known Derringer solo version. |
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telefunk1 Senior Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 401 Location: College Station, TX
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I drove to Lafayette, LA and back over the weekend and had JW and Live cranked up LOUD when I drove through Beaumont, TX - my tribute to JW. This LP was on my turntable for most of my early years as a player - there is so much to learn about twin guitar playing on this thing. Dynamics, comping, harmony, it has it all. And man can the rhythm section cook. The first cut with the awsome drumming intro still sends chills. And, yes Rick D is still out there and still an awsome player. Check out his work with Edgard Winter's White Trash on their live album to see what he could do away from JW, too. |
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ducharme-jones Senior Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 55 Location: Austin,Tx
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Andy, I wore that Johnny Winter And "live" record out. _________________ www.davidducharmejones.com |
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