Now I really love this box. It's coming with me every night. Sometimes just into the DR for small gigs or jams, but otherwise it's living on my pedal board.
Now I really love this box. It's coming with me every night. Sometimes just into the DR for small gigs or jams, but otherwise it's living on my pedal board.
I think you need a spare!
Bill
Good adive Bill, but does this mean you want to sell yours?
DD _________________ Music is the universal language; speak it with emotion, listen with a passion.
I ordered mine in oktober and received it today. So it took 3 months. And I can say it's really worth while to have patient. It's a little box with a huge sound. Can't wait for the next gig.
Henk
Hi Henk,
good to see you around!
I would be interested to hear your comments on the ZD tone and dynamics, being as you are an advocate of all things RF and Dumble
DD _________________ Music is the universal language; speak it with emotion, listen with a passion.
Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 401 Location: College Station, TX
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:38 am Post subject:
Here's an idea...
All you ZD owners, why not post clips with ZD off and ZD on so we can get a good cross section of sounds. One thing that bugs me about a lot of effect web sites is that they only have clips using the effect - so you really can't get a good feel for how the effect colours the sound. Just use a clean dry sound, then add the ZD. Simple? And for even more comparison why not play the same tune (say the head from Revelation or something like that). Just some suggestions.
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 249 Location: the Netherlands
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:07 am Post subject:
Hi DD,
The quality of de ZD is already been spoken on the Forum (nice reviews of Aeolian!). My main axe these days is a Tele and it sounds great with ZD. I bought that ZD because I only want to carry my guitar and a good OD with me, when I'm going out for rehearsels. I hate it to transport these heavy tubeamps. At home I use the ZD with my Koch Twintone and I like the OD of the ZD more then the OD channel of that Koch. I do have a D-like amp, but I hadn't time to compare it, not in the last place because I want to focus on playing music and not so much on the gear. I know the thought and the wish to sound as Robben, but intill now I'm trying to be satisfied with sounding as myself. As long as that advokate is not inside of me ;-)
thanks for your feedback. I think in among all of this you have hit the nail on the head, and that is that playing is more important, and so is your own sound identity.
Oh so true, but we all like to taste the forbidden fruit (RF tone!) once in a while , don't we???!!!!!
Cheers,
DD _________________ Music is the universal language; speak it with emotion, listen with a passion.
Joined: 29 Jan 2004 Posts: 1504 Location: Methuen, MA
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject:
diatonicdude wrote:
Henk,
thanks for your feedback. I think in among all of this you have hit the nail on the head, and that is that playing is more important, and so is your own sound identity.
Oh so true, but we all like to taste the forbidden fruit (RF tone!) once in a while , don't we???!!!!!
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Hartlepool, U.K.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:30 am Post subject:
He'd love to be, but he can't manage it full-time ... only now and zen _________________ "Creativeness often consists of merely turning up what is already there. Did you know that right and left shoes were only thought up a little more than a century ago?" - Bernice Fitz-Gibbon 1894-1982
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 109 Location: Chicago....southside
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject:
You know for months now I have been reading nothing but rave reviews of the Zen Drive on this forum, has anybody been not quite so pleased or not as happy with this thing, has anybody not had an "out of body experience" over this little hunk of metal!!! I sound like blobby now, anyhow I went ahead and ordered mine too, this many raves cant be wrong!!
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I love my ZD... soon after I got it, however, I loaned it to a good friend to try out. He said he wasn't that impressed.
He is very into the early Vox sounds, and he said it sounds like it works great on "Fender-like" amps, or 6L6/6V6/5881 family, but didn't do much for his fleet of EL-84 or EL-34 amps.
I sort of agreed with him, except that I played at a jam last week with a guy next to me using a Maz JR (EL-84) and he sounded awesome! My Super Reverb was screaming and his Maz was keeping up! Both ZDs going strong!
I tried the ZD with my Boogie MK IV and I think I now see the issues. The ZD works great with my Super Reverb and my Alessandro Working Dog Rotweiller, but the Boogie didn't seem to like it. I think the issue is that you need a good clean foundation to get the most out of the Zen. Adding it to some already grungy Preamp distortion (Boogie) didn't do it any favors.
I have fount that the Zen Drive fed by my Keeley TS-9 + is tonal heaven. The ZD alone for most OD chores, and kick them both on for the slightly heavier grind (still smooth as silk though).
Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 943 Location: Terra Firma, Ether Sea
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject:
GenoBluzGtr wrote:
...He is very into the early Vox sounds, and he said it sounds like it works great on "Fender-like" amps, or 6L6/6V6/5881 family, but didn't do much for his fleet of EL-84 or EL-34 amps..... I think the issue is that you need a good clean foundation to get the most out of the Zen. Adding it to some already grungy Preamp distortion (Boogie) didn't do it any favors.
I am not an engineer by any stretch of the imagination, so it would be up to Alf or someone of his tron-wrangling expertise to say for sure, but I do know that one of the distinguishing charcteristics of the Vox tube amps is that they are Class A configuration where most guitar amps anymore go with Class B. Maybe this has absolutely nothing to do with the Zen's performance... I don't know. Might be interesting to find out from Alf.
Also, I do know that Robben says he finds the Zen works best for him when he starts with a very clean amp sound. Makes me wonder how it would respond to something like a Roland JC-120, noted for it's abilty to attain a very crystal clear sound (and, like my new AC30, an amp I have wanted to own for many years... maybe Santa will bring me one for Xmas this year if I am good). _________________ B C-ing U!
( }:-Daved
"This boy's diseased with rhythm!" -Bing Crosby (Road To Rio, '49)
My EL84 equiped Boogie amp (Mullard & Mazda valves) set to ultra clean gives me absolutlety glorious tones with the ZD. It is true, not everyone will like the ZD because of its smoothness. I do get a Dumble, Robben type tone with my rig and ZD, at least to my ears, and a few other great tones to boot. And this is, of course, a good thing!!!
Alf once told me he tested the prototype ZD using a Boogie SOB amp! I am not sure of the spec of this, but what I can say, he certainly had the Robben type mids etc in mind when designing it. Ironically, he apparently tried to model his other pedal, the Mosferatu, on the tones of Robben's cover of the Beatles "Golden Slumbers". Robben apparently did not favour this pedal over the ZD, as he found it a little too "dark" sounding.
One thing for sure, if it ever comes to the day I am totally broke, I will sell the shirt of my back before the ZD (even if I had already sold my guitars and amp ), it is just superb for my tone needs.
Daved, it would be interesting to know how the ZD behaved with the Roland. Isn't that a solid state amp?
Cheers,
DD _________________ Music is the universal language; speak it with emotion, listen with a passion.
Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 943 Location: Terra Firma, Ether Sea
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject:
diatonicdude wrote:
Daved, it would be interesting to know how the ZD behaved with the Roland. Isn't that a solid state amp?
DD, that's a good point. Yes, it is, but with an amazing clean sound, and the chorus effect is superb. _________________ B C-ing U!
( }:-Daved
"This boy's diseased with rhythm!" -Bing Crosby (Road To Rio, '49)
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, don't we???!!!!!
), it is just superb for my tone needs.