Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:37 am Post subject: RF in my "jazz" guitar essay
I am writing an essay for collage about jazz guitar, it's players and history. I'd really like to include Robben in it, even though he's not a traditional jazz guitarist but he has made a great influence in the fusion scene aswell as the blues. Like I heard John McLaughlin say once "If you don't got any blues in jazz, you don't have any jazz". I believe its true.
Anyhow, I found online a mp3 file with Robben along with Bill Frisell playing Charlie Parker's Billie's Bounce. the name of the file is (if it helps):
Robben Ford - BlC - 05 - Billie's Bounce (w Bill Frisell).mp3
Does anyone know something about this session ? When it's recorded, where, who else is playing ? I'd love to hear more of this recording date.
Another thing... about Yellowjackets, in my essay I am going to include 3CDs with examples of the guitarist I am writing about and I would really like to have some examples of Robben playing with Yellowjackets. I only have their recent CDs - no RF there Is there anyone who has examples of RF guitarplaying with Yellowjackets willing to share ? I'll promise to buy the CDs later
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: Re: RF in my "jazz" guitar essay
bmar wrote:
I am writing an essay for collage about jazz guitar, it's players and history. I'd really like to include Robben in it, even though he's not a traditional jazz guitarist but he has made a great influence in the fusion scene aswell as the blues. Like I heard John McLaughlin say once "If you don't got any blues in jazz, you don't have any jazz". I believe its true.
Anyhow, I found online a mp3 file with Robben along with Bill Frisell playing Charlie Parker's Billie's Bounce. the name of the file is (if it helps):
Robben Ford - BlC - 05 - Billie's Bounce (w Bill Frisell).mp3
Does anyone know something about this session ? When it's recorded, where, who else is playing ? I'd love to hear more of this recording date.
Another thing... about Yellowjackets, in my essay I am going to include 3CDs with examples of the guitarist I am writing about and I would really like to have some examples of Robben playing with Yellowjackets. I only have their recent CDs - no RF there Is there anyone who has examples of RF guitarplaying with Yellowjackets willing to share ? I'll promise to buy the CDs later
Thanks in advance for all the help,
Ben
"Billie's Bounce" comes from Jerry Granelli's CD "A song I thought I heard Buddy sing" . That's a 1992 recording released on Evidence Music, with Jerry Granelli on drums and electric bass, Kenny Garrett on alto saxophone, Julian Priester on trombone, Bill Frisell on guitar and banjo, Robben on guitar, Anthony Cox on bass. Hope that helps.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: RF in my "jazz" guitar essay
bmar wrote:
Anyhow, I found online a mp3 file with Robben along with Bill Frisell playing Charlie Parker's Billie's Bounce. the name of the file is (if it helps):
Robben Ford - BlC - 05 - Billie's Bounce (w Bill Frisell).mp3
Does anyone know something about this session ? When it's recorded, where, who else is playing ? I'd love to hear more of this recording date.
Thanks in advance for all the help,
Ben
Robben did a CD with Bill Frissel call Blues Connotation. There is some very nice playing on that one, but I don't know if it's still available. Billie's Bounce is on that CD.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: RF in my "jazz" guitar essay
PierreL wrote:
"Billie's Bounce" comes from Jerry Granelli's CD "A song I thought I heard Buddy sing" . That's a 1992 recording released on Evidence Music, with Jerry Granelli on drums and electric bass, Kenny Garrett on alto saxophone, Julian Priester on trombone, Bill Frisell on guitar and banjo, Robben on guitar, Anthony Cox on bass. Hope that helps.
Yes indeed! There are no horns though in this version, just two guitars, bass and drums. I uploaded the audio file if you'd care to listen, I hope this works! Billie's Bounce - Frisell and Ford (click the link to download)
Bill Morgan wrote:
Robben did a CD with Bill Frissel call Blues Connotation. There is some very nice playing on that one, but I don't know if it's still available. Billie's Bounce is on that CD.
Perhaps this version is from the Blues Connotation CD ?
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject:
Blues Connotation was a rip-off compilation of takes. I've seen Robben grimace at it's mention. Not a part of the official discoraphy.
The Granelli album has the song, and yes, there are no horns on that particular cut. Just some great swinging be-bop lines from Robben, and Bill's usual clever and unique playing. Other songs have different soloists on them and Garrett gets out there in a few places. If you're a fan of outside music, this isn't as far out as Dolphy, but it's probably not completely accessible to the average blues/learning jazz fan.
Another more straight ahead recording with Robben is Joe Diorio's Minor Elegance. Robben plays more fluidly and blues like here. Sounding more horn like to Joe's very intelectual approach.
I don't know if there are any recordings available, but you might want to mention the jazz guitar summit with folks like Herb Ellis, where Robben first came to the attention of the jazz community. _________________ There are no such things as wrong notes, there's only the look on your face.
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Another more straight ahead recording with Robben is Joe Diorio's Minor Elegance. Robben plays more fluidly and blues like here. Sounding more horn like to Joe's very intelectual approach.
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yes, and it is politely said that it's Robben who's playing music on there.
Another more straight ahead recording with Robben is Joe Diorio's Minor Elegance. Robben plays more fluidly and blues like here. Sounding more horn like to Joe's very intelectual approach.
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I thought I had that recording somewhere, don't seem to find it now
Do you guys have any links to where I could listen to some examples of Robbens "jazzy" playing ?
In my essay I need to discuss the technical side of playing, not just who are playing the music. So involves alot of listening, but it's been great fun and I've gotten to know the music better of the old jazz guitar maestros like Grant Green, Charlie Christian etc.. It's very interesting to see the envolvment in a technical aspect, for example Wes Montgomery did a lot of superimposing arpeggios on chords. Such as playing a CMaj7 arpeggio on top of a Am7 chord, giving him the b3, 5th, b7th, and 9th of the Am7.
I have always liked the pentatonic-ish playing with Robben, like he was demonstrating in one of his instructional videos mixing up different pentatonics... trading the b7 (flat 7) with a 6th etc.. I think it's essential to get "out of the box" so to speak, with scales... not just play the plain pentatonic scale, but to mess around with it depending on the situation and the sound you want to create.
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Is there anyone who has examples of RF guitarplaying with Yellowjackets willing to share ? I'll promise to buy the CDs later 
