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Chord Book 'Altered Dominant' Confusion

 
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AlexThanos



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Chord Book 'Altered Dominant' Confusion Reply with quote

Hey Scott, Alex here and as suggested you asked me to post a question regarding your Chord Book as there are some confusions on my part Smile

Here is the chord (Love the sound of this one btw!):



So here it goes:

Maj: 7,#11 (CMaj6, FMaj7#11)
Min: 9 (Amin9)
Dom: 13 (D9,13)
Min7b5: 11 (F#min7b511)...or (F#min7b5sus4?????)

My question is:
Dom.alt: #9...i got the notes G#,A,C,E,B (Root, b9,3,b13,b3)

Shouldn't it be somewhat of a G#minMaj(b9,b13)....simply because i don't see a dominant b7th quality in there (F#?)

I know you're busy and you don't teach on forums but i really appreciate your help in this. Hope you can spare me some time to explain this. Thx much Scott Smile

Best Regards,
Alex Thanos
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AlexThanos



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, just revised it and that looks like a Diminished Scale...but not dominant alt. Is that correct Scott?? Smile
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AlexThanos



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a minute...if you continued the scale you would get Root, b9, b3, 3, b5, 5, b6, b7 Altered Scale and bingo you got your b7th as the dominant quality.
I think i just answered myself. Please just let me know if my conclusion was spot on Scott. If i plan on using it in gigs i wouldn't want people to go Shocked

Cheers Scott Smile
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kirk95
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those voicings don't always include every note of the chord, so sometimes they're not theoretically correct. Yes, as an altered chord, it's missing the b7, but it still sounds good.

Many times we play two or three voicings per chord, or way more if it's a vamp. Notes which are missing in one voicing are likely to be in another, so don't worry about chords with missing notes. Sometimes a two note chord sounds better than a full voicing - especially with distortion.

There's actually a mistake on that one because the brown 11 should say 11(b5).

Sorry for the mistake!

Scott
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Scott Henderson
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, sorry it's not a mistake - I forgot that brown already means m7(b5)
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AlexThanos



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx for clearing that up Scott...now on to the others. Cheers!
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