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Setting the Output of OD Pedals to Max
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jason3000



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That wouldn't be my first choice - if you have a distortion pedal on, adding a boost is just going to create more noise. I'd either use a volume pedal after the distortion pedal, or use a rubber sleeve on the output of the distortion pedal.


Thank you Scott. I didn't think about the noise issue. Interesting. You mean if I put a boost in front, correct?

What are you thoughts on the vertex boost and controlling it via expression pedal? I was thinking about trying that, post all my distortion and overdrive pedals.
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Scott Henderson
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty much the same question you asked before. The Vertex boost has very little gain - adding it to a distortion pedal will just add noise, and you need a serious distortion pedal because the amp has no master volume and is basically clean. You could solve all your problems by just getting an amp with an FX loop or a master volume.

Non-master volume amps are just loud - period. You could go with a smaller amp, under 40 watts, but in my experience they sound like practice amps. I've listened to advice like "not this amp, it sounds huge", and found that advice to be bullshit. Small amp, small sound. That's not always true in a recording situation, because a microphone hears things differently than our ears, but for live I won't use anything smaller than a Deluxe. A 40 watt amp with no master volume is loud - not much you can do except use a distortion pedal with a lot of gain and put a volume pedal after it, or use the output knob of the distortion pedal to control the volume.
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peter_heijnen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason, stay away from the vertex if you like to control the volume via exp pedal. The exp input on that pedal is a scam, it's just a very simpel insert point. If you'd connect a chorus to it, your sound would be chorussed.

A pedal being transparent or not is a matter of taste or needs in ones specific situation. Vertex claims this thing to be 100% transparent. Well it isn't transparent at all, it eats all your low end as soon as you plug it in. Maybe you like it maybe you don't, i didn't like it at all. What is true however, is that there is no difference in sound switching from buffered bypass to boost on, but at that point the harm is already done. Getting any 'always on' booster that you really dig with any low impedance volume pedal after it will do the job equally but most probably better then the vertex. Get a Xotic RCSH or a RCV2 with any decent volume pedal and your much better off.

The build quality of the vertex doesn't look like it's gonna last either, it seems very fragile. The first time i held it in my hand after unpacking i just thought: what the hell did i just pay 255 euro's for? But a moment later after i had plugged it in, was when i really got disappointed.
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