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Kurt's pick attack ( lack of )

 
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spellbound



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:42 pm    Post subject: Kurt's pick attack ( lack of ) Reply with quote

Scott,
Recent youtube postings show Kurt playing with the Peter Beets Trio -

What would you say is most responsible for his near lack of pick attack in this case ?

Thanks !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7XTQcriy8
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Scott Henderson
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a combination of compression from the amp, or pedal if he's using one, and you can clearly see that he's picking very soft, making the hammer-ons and pull-offs about the same volume as the picked notes. Great playing from Kurt as always.
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spellbound



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

He's an amazing talent. His tone has gone stratospheric, I think.
Even the fastest lines have the softest attack.
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larue nickelson



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that he was using a compressor of some sort to hide the attack. I'm not sure if he's using it here or not
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1013/kurt-rosenwinkel/11698
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.jazzguitar.be/forum/players/52058-rosenwinkel-flute-sound.html
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trap



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does his playing not grab me? He's obviously adept. It all sounds very level to me. Too level and too even. Cant fault his technique. Where are the balls? Where is the abandon?
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TaeKwonDonut



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trap wrote:
Why does his playing not grab me? He's obviously adept. It all sounds very level to me. Too level and too even. Cant fault his technique. Where are the balls? Where is the abandon?


I totally get where you are coming from..I've heard the name but this was the first time I actually checked him out. There are ton of guys playing in like organ trio settings out of NYC that sound so much like that nowadays. My understanding is he is the original.. it's much like steve khan's playing - soloing really has no dynamics or anything.. I am sure with more listening you'll dig it but I hear what you mean.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trap wrote:
Why does his playing not grab me? He's obviously adept. It all sounds very level to me. Too level and too even. Cant fault his technique. Where are the balls? Where is the abandon?


maybe this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1rIr8rpqP8
the whole band here is hot as fuck

i like kurt's playing more when he's playing his own tunes.

btw Scott, on the subject of inner urge, is/was joe henderson much of an influence on you?
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trap



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e123ms wrote:
trap wrote:
Why does his playing not grab me? He's obviously adept. It all sounds very level to me. Too level and too even. Cant fault his technique. Where are the balls? Where is the abandon?


maybe this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1rIr8rpqP8
the whole band here is hot as fuck

i like kurt's playing more when he's playing his own tunes.

btw Scott, on the subject of inner urge, is/was joe henderson much of an influence on you?

Yes, that's better. Still not someone I would go out of my way to listen to.
I think straight ahead jazzers should have a consultant when they want to use overdrive. It's like an afterthought.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Joe Henderson and transcribing his solos was a must when I was a student. One of the best sax players ever in my opinion.
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