Scott Henderson Discussion

funksteroo · Joined: 21 Aug 2011 Posts: 40

Hey Scott, I heard you say that you now have four vintage speakers in your cab. Have they been reconed or just miraculously preserved, and do they really sound better than new? Just been curious about that since you said it and I've heard about others doing that as well....

Thanks for your time

Scott Henderson · The Man Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 2135

I have a 4x12 with Chinese Greenbacks which I use most of the time, and also a 4x12 with two '69 Greenbacks, a '71 Greenback, and a '71 G12H. The vintage speakers are a bit darker and break up easier. They sound like Led Zeppelin, that's the best way to describe it. Smile

I'm not crazy about the G12H - it's kinda nasal sounding, but I'm sure I'll find a use for it.

Rifflord · Joined: 23 May 2018 Posts: 13

I know you're a greenbacks guy but do you have any recommendations of speaker for a fender type amp? Mine is a SF Fender twin modded so that the vibrato knob is replaced with a presence. I would eventually like to get the same speakers in the amp that I use for impulses.

The reactive load into MixIR is great but it's still way different than my raw amp tone (like you said), and requires slightly different settings. (and that tiny bit of latency bothers me to no end)

The amp currently has stock, kinda soso speakers with a fender logo on them. No clue what they are but they sound better than MixIR running 2x12 open back Greenback and Vintage 30s (tried both separately) by Celestion.

Maybe I could get closer with a different set of celestion IR's??? I can't do the ownhammer or redwires stuff it sounds like someones thrown a pillow over the amp to me.

Scott Henderson · The Man Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 2135

Sorry I can't help you with this one - I don't know anything about speakers in Fender amps. I know a lot about Celestions but not much about American made speakers. I'd call a music store that sells vintage gear - at least they'd tell you what vintage speakers to look for, or if anyone is making good sounding speakers now. I think John Suhr has a message board and answers questions - he'd be the guy to ask.

Rifflord · Joined: 23 May 2018 Posts: 13

daschwarjazz · Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 28

countandduke · Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 197

I have a Fender Landau amp. It’s basically a Hot Rod channel 1 amp. It’s a GREAT pedal amp! Very clean, like a blackface Fender. You REALLY have to push the amp to get it to overdrive and even then it’s only a slight breakup. The amp comes with V-type Celestions and I think they sound great!!! The amp is a 2x12 BTW...

Best,
Chris

Rifflord · Joined: 23 May 2018 Posts: 13

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to pick up that sale they have where you pick out 5 speakers for 29.99 and just grab 5 different 1x12's closed backs.

Ive been using the 2x12 opens- seems a 1x12 would be closer to what you would hear micing one speaker?? who knows. Until someone comes out with something the same or better quality I'm going to have to play around with different combinations of celestions IRs.

dizzy · Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 406

I have experimented a bunch with speakers in open back 1x12 fender amps.

My 3 favorites are:

1. Creamback h75

2. Creamback 65

3. V type

The h75 sounds biggest in 1x12 open back cab because it has the huge magnet. One problem is that it is scooped so if you use an overdrive like a ts9 or even sd9 it fills in the mids and sounds great but just clean it can be kinda harsh.

The 65 is the sweetest sounding to me—like a greenback with more watts.
The only problem is that in the 1x12 open back there is not enough bass so it ends up sounding a little small.

The v type is like a cross between the two speakers I mentioned. I can see why Suhr and Landau both like them in smaller back cabs.

Recently I have been using a 2x12 open cab and it sounds more then 2 times bigger then a 1x12. With at least 2 speakers I think it is much easier to get a good sound.